Sharraxaadda
the comments posted on most of the stories i've read are incredibly offensive on the registers articles. many do nothing to promote dialogue and only attempt to attack people. it is mostly anonymous and negative ranting. it is far from constructive.
many online news sources require that comments are reviewed by a moderator before they are actually posted.
does the register not believe that they are responsible for the way that commenters use their site?
30 Faalladas
t. tstien (Martida)
Joseph (Martida)
At times we feel the Reg and WTNH can do some more investigative reporting and that way folks wont have to add so much .
David Streever (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Joseph, I have seen horrible racist comments, so I know you are incorrect. Do you need to SWEAR on a family friendly site? Can't you reserve that language for your own home/drinking saloon?
Personally, I want kids to be able to read the newspaper without seeing swear words. I'm sorry you feel your rights are being trampled on, but guess who owns the commenting? That is right--NH Register. As a result, they can face legal liability if someone defames or commits any other crime with their comment.
joseph (Martida)
But like i wrote, even if ONE attempted to swear the on-line news site won't allow it to be posted, so ONE has absolutely never read a swear word from ANYONE. Yes the Register does own the news site , not you or any other commentator. Like i mentioned before, pity those with no computer and does not have the means to defend oneself from vicious slander, a Lady in Fair Haven wrongly accused of drug dealing as she sipped iced tea on a hot evening.
- City Hall employees who on the payroll and dime object to on-line commentary that will cause his boss problems, paid consultants who feel and who promised to shut the mouths of activists and do-gooders, and expect an entitlement for their work
David Streever (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Joseph, I don't follow you exactly.
The person who opened this issue is a very nice young lady I know, who works at a restaurant, and does not work for the Mayor.
She--and I--have read horrible, terrible things in the Register comments, written about people who were murdered, people who died, people who are just ordinary citizens. We've read racist screeds against african americans and white supremacy postings.
We want the Register to at the very least not print hate speech. I'm glad that they don't print swears, but that doesn't mean they "moderate". That is an automated program that filters out swear words.
I'd like to see them moderate--as Paul Bass does with the NHI--to ensure that the conversations are neither mean nor hateful, but about facts.
Can you explain why you oppose that? I have no idea what the Mayor has to do with that at all?
I'm not sure if you think Juli/myself are different people? Neither of us work for the mayor nor have taken even a dollar from him. Neither of us are paid consultants, neither of us promised to shut anyones mouth--we both are active citizens who speak out AGAINST the administration, expect nothing in return, and are just here to ask that the Register not allow people to write horrible things about ordinary citizens.
detour01 (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
joseph (Martida)
I do believe you make a point, it's a point that's been made by a few others,a good point nonetheless , but i believe your piling it on a bit in regards to personal attacks, oh wait, i did see a couple of comments directed at a one David Streever.. Is that you ? Yeah someone was slammin your bell boy. Even moi ,of on-line rantarooskie thought that was a bit over the top - just click on Report Abuse and explain, or better yet , answer to the charges by posting a comment
robn (Martida)
dailyreader (Martida)
Ron (Martida)
Abbe (Martida)
nothing will happen.
robn (Martida)
I think I'm wrong about the Reg exposing themselves to libel suit.
http://tinyurl.com/3gan6cc
As far as content, browsing the Reg comments is an interesting look into a reactive portion of the deep subconscious of New Haven county. On the other hand, average middle of the road readers might be mislead, as they are on FOX News, into beleiving that a vitriolic rants of radical marginal commenter's are normal and representative of the majority.
I think I'm glad we have both NHI and Reg but Reg could clamp down a bit quicker on malicious commenting. Their policy right now seems to be electronically filter profanity and review comments for maliciousness only if someone complains.
guest (Martida)
It is a blog.
joseph (Martida)
Truth is stranger than fiction . Good people , we make this up not.
The New Haven Independent relies on contributions, those contributors dictate as to what the staff is supposed to write ,report and think. The New Haven Register's customer base are the lower middle class to abject poverty class - but they buy the paper.
One never sees a red wrapped Reg in front of a developers home/ palace on Livingston st. or West Rock mansion ave.
David Streever (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Joseph, you aren't being very clear.
A. Race card? What the heck do you mean? I don't like reading racist screeds. That is why I want the Register to moderate their comments. How is that the race card? I don't like reading that type of... well, it is a word I can't write here.
B. I don't even know anything about the Yale Environmental Justice League nor do I understand why that is even relevant? Is that a current story? I honestly only read the Register once in a blue moon because I think it is largely an irrelevant paper.
C. There are several african-americans involved in Elm City Cycling, both on the board and at the meetings. I have seen many different people of many different ethnicities on rides, including the Arts & Ideas rides we conduct. We have worked hard to have specific, concrete improvements put in underserved neighborhoods. Again, not sure how this is at all relevant, but the fact that people commenting on bike stories do not identify themselves as minorities and/or you choose not to learn more about a group you say doesn't represent everyone evenly is really not relevant. Opinions are wonderful, and even better when based on actual facts.
D. I don't care if people write mean-spirited things about me in the Reg--as I said, I don't read it. On the few occasions that I do, I've seen some horrible racist nonsense, and I would rather not.
Do you have an actual point? I feel like you are saying, "It is OK if people write awful racist stuff! Who cares?" A lot of people care. That isn't the type of world I want to live in. Racism is no where near as prevalent as it was 50 years ago, and that is because the majority of people don't want to hear that disgusting type of talk and don't stand for it.
David Streever (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Guest:
The New Haven Register is a newspaper. They have a website, which is not a blog, but a syndicated electronic collection of their newspaper stories.
I assume you directed that at me, because I'm the only person who has used the term newspaper on this issue.
Just to clarify for you, a "blog" is short hand for "web log", and is a website in which an individual or individuals post thoughts, opinions, and observations. The New Haven Register is not a blog. It is a newspaper syndicated electronically, which allows readers to "Comment". Commenting is not typically considered blogging. Hope that helps.
jaxwell (Martida)
Livesinfairhaven (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
NHR should remove the feature "report as offensive". The comments following referencing the "offensive" one get confusing. Let NHR find the ones they don't like for themselves.
If you don't like what it says don't read it.
joseph (Martida)
They started their PAC about '98, same time Mr.Dave came down and resided. FYI of course. And the Reg will rock on with the beneficial,informative, and golly gee just the most useful info ..
streever (Martida)
bingo (Martida)
David Streever (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
is that relevant to wanting the Register to moderate their comments?
DMV (Martida)
bingo (Martida)
David Streever (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
Bingo, I have to report back, I've met the local leader of the Environmental Justice Group. Still haven't been to a meeting, but he is a great guy.
Why the animosity? He just thinks that it isn't cool that as a society we put the most polluting things in the neighborhoods where the poorest kids live.
I mean seriously, what is wrong with that?
Concerned Local Citizen (Martida)
They do moderate the comments - all sorts of stuff gets removed. As a matter of fact, I have the opposite issue, that comments are removed in a haphazard and arbitrary manner.
Nearly any race or nationality related post, even ones where you may only be posting statistics the government tracks, is likely to be removed, making any sort of substantive dialogue on issues like immigration impossible. The other thing is if anyone is killed in a traffic accident, forget about discussing the cause of the accident and how to make that road any safer - the board turns into a memorial page for the deceased, even though 99% of the people reading the story never knew the person.
They need to remove only truly hateful or offensive comments, but should not remove any message that only hints at the fact that races and nationalities exist. And the fact that they remove messages discussing how to make roads safer after a fatal accident is almost shameful on their part.
Livesinfairhaven (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
juli (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
good news!
http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/register_to_moderate_comments/
juli (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)
take their survey:
"SURVEY: would you block or allow these comments?"
http://nhregister.com/articles/2011/12/14/opinion/doc4ee7ef2d2f541245778652.txt
La xidhay juli (Isticmaale Diiwaangashan)